- Their Enrollment status will be: first time student in college after completing high school
- Their HS Ed Level will be: graduated from a US school or completed an equivalency exam
- High School Completion date: the required HS comp date indicates the user's graduation date, which will be between the time they are completing the application and the start of the Term
- We won't know if they completed 11th grade because this question doesn't appear unless they are "enrolled in hs or lower grade" and college at the same time.
- Their Enrollment status will be: "will be enrolling in high school (or lower grade) and college at the same time."
- Their HS Ed Level will be: "Attending high school (or lower grade) and college at the same time." - This response defaults to this value based on the Enrollment status. If their incoming enrollment status puts them in HS or lower grade, then their HS Ed Level has to match.
- Because of these two statuses (they are in high school or lower grade) - the High School Completion date question does not display - so we don't know when their "projected" completion date is at all.
- We will know if they completed 11th grade based on their response to "Completed 11th grade". Yes or no.
Change Request Breakdown
based on 7.24.18 document
Revise "Condition 2" of the conditional display logic to remove the "High School Completion Date is < 10 years from the RDD (high school completion/graduation is less than 10 years prior to the day before the first day of the selected Term)" from the three-part logic:- User has a "High School Education Level is one of the following:
- Received high school diploma from US high school
- Passed a high school equivalency test
- Received a Certificate of California High School Proficiency
- AND User's High School country = United States
NOTE: In 2016, the CCCApply steering committee proposed, debated, and approved removal of the words "GED" from the
- Update the question text for "Highest English Course" from: ..."you took" in high school...
- TO: ""What was the highest English course you completed in high school?"
- Update the "error validation/client-message language" from "Required response if displayed on screen, else error message, "You must select the highest English course you took in high school or choose "None of the above / Don't Know" from the response options."
- TO: Required response if displayed on screen, else error message, "You must select the highest English course you completed in high school or choose "None of the above / Don't Know" from the response options."
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Change Request Review Meeting 7.27.18
Background Information - Need to Update MM Questions in CCCApply for September 2018 Release
Questions
Breakdown of the Two Proposed Questions
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In other words - if they are applying for a Fall 2018 term, for example, with a Term Start Date of September 1, 2018, they will be answering the questions based on what their status will be at that time. So high school seniors completing the application in April 2018 (for example) will be answering the questions from the perspective of what they will be doing and what they've completed on September 1, 2018. So given that reality, I see two scenarios for the type of user you are hoping to address in the new questions (12th grader): Scenario #1: User is a 12th Grader Now - applying for a future term - and will be a high school graduate on the start date of that term. Here's what we will find out based on their responses today about a future term:
In this scenario- the two new questions don't help you because they will have already graduated and are no longer "enrolled in" in 12th grade at the time they are taking the math course. Scenario #2: User is a 12th Grader now - and is applying for a term that begins before they graduate (i.e., they will still be a 12th grader at the start of the term (basically this is the enrollment status of: "enrolling in high school (or lower grade) and college at the same time) Here's what they have to select today, based on the start date of the Term they are applying for:
In this scenario - the two new questions are redundant to what is already being asked on this student in the preceding math questions. We don't find out or get anything new. Unfortunately the application does not provide a way to know if the user is in 12th grade specifically at the time of application. |
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Based on the two scenarios outlined above, Patty has proposed that they cancel these two new questions. Mallory Newell & John Hadad agreed. 7.27.18 |
Meeting with Omid 8.02.18 reviewing MM requirements proposed:
Regarding the new requirement which calls to remove the logic in Condition #2 logic that limits collecting self-reported data from students who have graduated/equivalent within the past 10 years from date of application - Omid + Laura Hope have determined to keep that logic IN the condition and NOT REMOVE it at this time. This will be discussed and revisited for a future release possibly.
Change Request Breakdown
Confirmation of Requirements Requested in 7.24.18 document (Link: SelfReportedQuestionEdits072418.R-72718.docx )
- Revise Display Condition #2: Revise "Condition 2" of the HS Transcript Information section conditional display logic to remove the age/date limitation requirement ("High School Completion Date is < 10 years from the RDD (high school completion/graduation is less than 10 years prior to the day before the first day of the selected Term)":
- Update Condition #2 TO:
Display "High School Transcript Information" section and display “Grade Point Average” question, but DO NOT display “Have you completed the 11th grade?” question IF:- User has a "High School Education Level is one of the following:
- Received high school diploma from US high school
- Passed a high school equivalency test
- Received a Certificate of California High School Proficiency
- AND User's High School country = United States
- User has a "High School Education Level is one of the following:
- This means that the MM section will appear for EVERY applicant - regardless of age - that has graduated or equivalent from a US high school.
- Update Condition #2 TO:
Update logic in the GPA Question: Revise the conditions for displaying the GPA question by removing the piece of logic removed in Condition #2 that says, "
only display IF the user's "High School Completion Date is < 10 years from the RDD (high school completion/graduation is less than 10 years prior to the day before the first day of the selected Term)" from the three-part logic in Condition 2, which is a reiteration of the general logic change above.
Update Question #2: Highest English Course
TakenCompletedUpdate the onscreen question text for "Highest English Course"
TO: "What was the highest English course you completed in high school? You may have passed or not passed the course, but you remained enrolled until the end."
(Change "took" to "completed" and ADD additional text: "You may have passed or not passed the course, but you remained enrolled until the end.")
Update the page error validation message language"
TO: Required response if displayed on screen, else error message, "You must select the highest English course you completed in high school or choose "None of the above / Don't Know" from the response options."
- Update Question #3: Highest English Course Grade
- Update the page error validation message language:
- TO: Required response, IF "Highest English Course Taken" is NOT "None of the Above / Don't Know", else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest English course you completed in high school."
- Update the page error validation message language:
Update Question #4: Highest Math Course
TakenCompletedKEEP the current data field name that exists today: highest_math_course_taken
Update the onscreen question text for "Highest Math Course Taken"
TO: "What was the highest math course you completed in high school? You may have passed or not passed the course, but you remained enrolled until the end."
(Change "took" to "completed" and ADD additional text: "You may have passed or not passed the course, but you remained enrolled until the end.")
ADD a new data field response/value to <highest_math_course_taken>
Add new data field value: 13 - Math Analysis
Add new response option to drop down: Math Analysis
Position the new response option between Trigonometry and Pre-Calculus IN THE DROP DOWN MENU
Update the Page error validation message language
TO: Required response, else error message, "You must select the highest math course you completed in high school."
ADD a pop-up HELP text box providing help information for this question:
Values/Response Options: Mallory emailed the information that needs to be displayed in a pop-up Help textbox which will provide additional names for the courses, as well as some definitions to the courses. Amanda is getting this UI challenge reviewed by the dev team and will come back with a proposal to pose to Mallory & John.
Question #5: Highest Math Course
TakenCompleted GradeKEEP the data field name that exists today: highest_math_taken_grade
- Update the page error validation language:
- TO: Required response, else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest math class completed in high school."
- TO: Required response, else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest math class completed in high school."
- Question #6: Highest Math Course Passed
- ADD a new data value and response option to: <highest_math_course_passed>
- Add new data value: 13 = Math Analysis
- Add new Response Options to the drop down menu: Math Analysis
- Position Math Analysis between Trigonometry AND Pre-Calculus IN THE DROP DOWN MENU
- ADD a pop-up HELP text box providing help information for this question:
Values/Response Options: Here add a pop-up Help" functionality, similar to any other places in the application. Using a hyperlink within the question text, applicant could click on the link to display Same as above. Mallory emailed the information that needs to be displayed in a pop-up box of Help information. Mallory will supply the information for the pop up Help box. - Page error validation: Required response, else error message, "You must select the highest math course you completed in high school."
- Update the data field name from: highest_math_taken_grade TO: <highest_math_completed_grade> (NOT RECOMMENDED)
- Update the page error validation: Required response, else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest math class completed in high school."Help textbox which will provide additional names for the courses, as well as some definitions to the courses. Amanda is getting this UI challenge reviewed by the dev team and will come back with a proposal to pose to Mallory & John
- ADD a new data value and response option to: <highest_math_course_passed>
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NOTE: 7.27.18 – Per call with Mallory Newell & John Hadad, we are not adding these two questions per discussion of the requirement already being met with the questions #4 - #7 above. in response to Patty's deep dive review and suggestion that these would be redundant to the other questions above because we are already targeting the audience these are intended for now with the questions above. Mallory agreed and approved to cancel these two new questions. |
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General Requirements
The technical specifications below are for OPTIONAL adoption and implementation of the High School Transcript Information section which will appear on the Education page. Colleges must opt-in to participate. If a college chooses to implement, the display of questions and logic must be turned on manually by the CCCApply development team.
Heading: High School Transcript Information
Onscreen Text: "College staff use this information to provide guidance. Your responses will not affect your admission to college."
Conditions for High School Transcript Information Section
The "High School Transcript Information" section will appear between the Last High School Attended and the College Education Level sections IF either of the conditions below are met, otherwise it does not display.
Condition 1:
Display "High School Transcript Information" section and "Have you completed the 11th grade?" question IF:
High School Education Level = "Will be enrolled in high school (or lower grade) and college at the same time"
AND
High school Country = United States
Condition 2:
Display "High School Transcript Information" section and display “Grade Point Average” question, but DO NOT display “Have you completed the 11th grade?” question IF:
High School Education Level is one of the following:
- Received high school diploma from US high school
- Passed a high school equivalency test
- Received a Certificate of California High School Proficiency;
AND
High School Completion Date is < 10 years from the RDD (high school completion/graduation is is less than 10 10 years prior to the day before the first day of the selected Term).
AND
High School Country = United States
THEN, display "High School Transcript Information" section with Grade Point Average question always.
ELSE, DO NOT DISPLAY NEW SECTION or any section questions.
Completed Eleventh Grade
Data Element: | completed_eleventh_grade |
Description: | Applicant’s response to whether they have completed the 11th grade in high school. |
Format, Length: | Boolean |
Values: | True False |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Data collection for purposes of Common Assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information; optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | “Have you completed the 11th grade?” |
Conditions: | ONLY display IF 1) High School Education Level = "Will be enrolled in high school (or lower grade) and college at the same time" AND 2) "hs_country = United States", ELSE do not display |
Additional Text: | "College staff use this information to provide guidance. Your responses will not affect your admission to college." |
Response Options: | Yes No |
Pop-Up Help: | |
Field Error Check: | |
Page Error Check: | Required selection; else error message, "You must indicate if you have completed 11th grade or not." |
Data Element: | education: completed_eleventh_grade |
Grade Point Average
Data Element: | grade_point_average |
Description: | Applicant’s response to high school grade point average (GPA). |
Format, Length: | Var char, 5 |
Values: | Text input _. _ _ |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Data collection for purposes of Common Assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information; optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | What was your unweighted high school GPA (grade point average)? Please enter a value between 0.00 and 4.00. |
Conditions: | Always display "High School Transcript Information" section with Grade Point Average question IF either of the following conditions have been met: 1) Have you completed 11th grade? = Yes 2) High School Education Level is one of the following: |
3 = Received high school diploma from |
U.S. school |
4 = Passed a high school equivalency test and received a certificate of high school equivalency |
5 = Received a Certificate of California High School Proficiency |
AND High School Country <hs_country> is “United States” THEN, display with “High School Transcript Information" section; | |
Additional Text: | If you are still in high school, enter your cumulative unweighted GPA as of the end of 11th grade. If unsure, please estimate. |
Response Options: | User input |
Pop-Up Help: | There are two (2) hyperlinks that trigger the same Help Pop-Up Box. Hyperlink: "unweighted high school GPA" in the onscreen question; Hyperlink: "cumulative unweighted GPA" in the Additional text.
You may want to refer to your high school transcript to answer this question. Cumulative GPA: This is the running total of your GPA that includes all of your high school coursework. Unweighted GPA: Typically, transcripts will show both a weighted and unweighted GPA. The unweighted GPA has a maximum value of 4.0 and does not assign extra points or “weight” to classes that are more difficult such as AP or Honors classes. |
Field Error Check: | Must be a numeric value between 0.00 - 4.00, else error message, "You must enter a numerical GPA that is not 0.00 or higher than 4.00. If you are unsure, please estimate." |
Page Error Check: | Required selection; Must not be 0.00 or higher than 4.00, else error message, “You must enter a numerical GPA that is not 0.00 or higher than 4.00. If you are unsure, please estimate.” |
Data Element: | education: grade_point_average |
Highest English Course
Taken Taken Completed
Data Element: | highest_english_course |
Description: | Applicant’s response to highest English course |
Format, Length: | Integer |
Values: | 1 = 12th grade Advanced Placement (AP) English Composition or Literature 2 = 12th grade Honors English Composition or Literature 3 = 12th grade English Composition or Literature 4 = 11th grade Advanced Placement (AP) English Composition or Literature 5 = 11th grade Honors English Composition or Literature 6 = 11th grade English Composition or Literature 7 = 10th grade (or lower) English Composition or Literature X = None of the Above / Don’t Know |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage | Data collected to support common assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information; optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | What was the highest English course you |
Conditions: | Always display, if Grade Point Average question and High School Transcript Information section are displayed |
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Response Options: | 1 = 12th grade Advanced Placement (AP) English Composition or Literature 2 = 12th grade Honors English Composition or Literature 3 = 12th grade English Composition or Literature 4 = 11th grade Advanced Placement (AP) English Composition or Literature 5 = 11th grade Honors English Composition or Literature 6 = 11th grade English Composition or Literature 7 = 10th grade (or lower) English Composition or Literature X = None of the Above / Don’t Know |
Pop-Up Help: | None |
Field Error Check: | |
Page Error Check: | Required response if displayed on screen, else error message, "You must select the highest English course you |
Change Log; | Revised language 9.28.18 |
Highest English Course Taken Grade
Data Element: | highest_english_grade |
Description: | Applicant’s response to grade received in the highest English course |
Format, Length: | |
Values: | A A- B+ B B- C+ C C- D F P NP ON = Other non-passing grade X = None of the Above / Don’t Know |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Used for assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information; Optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | What grade did you receive? |
Conditions: | Always display and require a response if the student selects any response OTHER THAN "None of the Above / Don't Know" in Highest English Course Taken, DO NOT Display If student selects "None of the Above / Don't Know" in Highest English Course Taken. |
Additional Text: | None |
Response Options: | A A- B+ B B- C+ C C- D F P NP Other Non-Passing Grade None of the above / Don't Know |
Field Error Check: | None |
Page Error Check: | Required response, IF "Highest English Course Taken" is NOT "None of the Above / Don't Know", else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest English course |
Change Log | Revised the language on 9.28.18 |
Highest Math Course Taken
Data Element: | highest_math_course_taken |
Description: | Applicant’s response to highest math course |
Format, Length: | Integer |
Values: | 1 ⎯ Pre-algebra or lower 2 ⎯ Algebra 1 3 ⎯ Integrated Math 1 4 ⎯ Integrated Math 2 5⎯ Geometry 6 ⎯ Algebra 2 7 ⎯ Integrated Math 3 8⎯ Statistics 9 ⎯ Integrated Math 4 10 ⎯ Trigonometry 13 - Math Analysis 11 ⎯ Pre-calculus 12 ⎯ Calculus or higher X - None of the Above / Don't Know |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Data collected to support common assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information Optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | "What |
was the highest math course you | |
Conditions: | Always display and require a response IF criteria is met for either condition listed in "High School Transcript Information" section above. |
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Response Options: | Pre-algebra or lower Algebra 1 Integrated Math 1 Integrated Math 2 Geometry Algebra 2 Integrated Math 3 Statistics Integrated Math 4 Trigonometry Math Analysis Pre-calculus Calculus or higher None of the Above / Don't Know |
Field Error Check: | TBD |
Page Error Check: | Required response, else error message, "You must select the highest math course you |
Highest Math Course Taken Grade
Data Element: | highest_math_taken_grade |
Description: | Applicant’s response to grade received for highest math course |
Format, Length: | Varchar, 2 |
Values: | A A- B+ B B- C+ C C- D F P NP ON = Other Non-passing Grade X = None of the Above / Don’t Know |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Data collected to support common assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information Optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | What grade did you receive? [menu] |
Conditions: | Display and require a response if <highest_math_course_taken> is NOT "None of the Above / Don't Know" |
Additional Text: | |
Response Options: | A- B+ B B- C+ C C- D F |
P |
NP |
Other Non-Passing Grade |
None of the above / Don't Know | |
Pop-Up Help: | None |
Field Error Check: | None |
Page Error Check: | Required response, else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest math class |
Highest Math Course Passed
Data Element: | highest_math_course_passed |
Description: | Applicant’s response to highest math course passed with a Pass or a C- grade or better in high school. |
Format, Length: | Integer |
Values: | 1 ⎯ Pre-algebra or lower 2 ⎯ Algebra 1 3 ⎯ Integrated Math 1 4 ⎯ Integrated Math 2 5⎯ Geometry 6 ⎯ Algebra 2 7 ⎯ Integrated Math 3 8⎯ Statistics 9 ⎯ Integrated Math 4 10 ⎯ Trigonometry 13 - Math Analysis 11 ⎯ Pre-calculus 12 ⎯ Calculus or higher X - None of the Above / Don't Know |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Data collected to support common assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information Optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | "What was the highest math course you passed with a Pass, C-, or better grade, in high school? |
Conditions: | DO NOT display if “Highest Math Course Taken” is "None of the Above / Don't Know"; |
Additional Text: | |
Response Options: | Pre-algebra or lower Algebra 1 Integrated Math 1 Integrated Math 2 Geometry Algebra 2 Integrated Math 3 Statistics Integrated Math 4 Trigonometry Math Analysis Pre-calculus Calculus or higher None of the Above / Don't Know |
Field Error Check: | TBD |
Page Error Check: | Required response if displayed, else error message, "You must select the highest math course you passed with a C- or better grade in high school?" |
Highest Math Course Passed Grade
Data Element: | highest_math_passed_grade |
Description: | Applicant’s response to grade received for highest math course passed in high school with a Pass or C- or greater. |
Format, Length: | Varchar, 2 |
Values: |
1 A
21 = A 2 = A- |
3 = B+ |
4 = B |
5 = B- |
6 = C+ |
7 = C |
8 = C- |
9 = P X = None of the Above / Don’t Know | |
Allows Null: | Yes |
Default: | None |
Usage: | Collected to support common assessment placement |
Notes: | Appears in new section in Education table: High School Transcript Information Optional display in CCCApply. College must opt-in for section to display and to download data field. |
Question Text: | What grade did you receive? [menu] |
Conditions: | Display and require a response if “Highest Math Course Passed with a Pass or C- or greater” is NOT “None of the Above / Don’t Know”; |
Additional Text: | |
Response Options: |
None of the Above / Don’t Know |
Pop-Up Help: | None |
Field Error Check: | None |
Page Error Check: | Required response if <highest_math_course_passed> is displayed, else error message, "You must select the grade you received for the highest math course you passed with a C- or better grade in high school." |