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Great question. Noncredit Application URLs are unique to each college MIS code and branded with each college's unique logo. Each college has a URL for the Pilot environment and one for the Production environment.
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| Comment from monica.sain: By the way, this new application looks great! I like that it's shorter and less intimidating for students. |
How do they access the non-credit application from the college application? How to pick the credit vs non-credit?
00:38:34 teacher.cec00hn2: Is this application available now for use? What if we have used in-house application? Shall we continue using that or just go with cccapply noncredit application?
Is term setup the same as College Credit?
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One of the objectives of the CCCApply Noncredit College Pilot Project was to develop a workflow within CCCApply for noncredit students that would serve the majority of our college stakeholders' needs. During development, we looked at a number of noncredit paper applications to ensure the majority of questions were represented in the CCCApply online version. On every application we reviewed, questions asking for enrollment status, high school education level, high school completion date, and college education level; therefore we felt it was necessary to include the Education page in the Noncredit Application intact and gauge reception by colleges and students.
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| Comment by Alicia Gregory: We need the education tab - this is important for CAEP data information collection. |
(Is the) Admin center and Report Center is same as College Credit (Standard Application)?
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| Comment from Kip Nead (Cabrillo College): (We) Don't want SSN completely gone, because students wanting fin aid have to provide it. Also we get duplicate accounts if a student provided as SSN in the past but they submit a new app without one. |
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| Comment by John Steffens: Maybe move the SSN question to the Financial Assistance section. |
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| Comment from Alicia Gregory: But if this is for noncredit then there is not a need for financial aid is there? Is there a way to take it out of the main CCC app and then have it filled in if they chose to do the for credit pathway? |
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(H)ow often is the list of CEEBs and (CDS) HS updated in the system?
CCCApply maintains a school “look-up” feature as part of CCCApply. This allows students to select a High School or previous College and automatically the CDS and CEEB code attach to the application record, thus the code(s) becomes part of the download file imported into a College’s SIS application.
CCC Technology center receives updates every 4-6 weeks. These files are uploaded to the database quarterly, then accessed by students during the application process.
Read more about CCCApply Schools & Colleges Lists
Is there a paper version available?00:29:00 Stephen Carrillo:
No. At this time there are no plans (or resources) to produce and maintain a paper version of the Noncredit Application.
Will the Application be available in Spanish and other languages?00:29:40 Alicia Gregory:
Yes. A Spanish version of the applications is planned; however we are still prioritizing the scope and schedule against available budget for FY19/20.
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| Comment by pavik_l: It would be great to translate the NC application into Spanish |
00:35:45 sagenml: on the top right of each page it gives option to change to Spanish, but no other language
Who should we contact about making changes to our application?00:32:50 John Steffens: Maybe move the SSN question to the Financial Assistance section.00:33:47 pavik_l: It would be great to translate the NC application into Spanish00:34:24 monica.sain:
Colleges are encouraged to report bugs and technical issues immediately to the CCCTC college support site under the most appropriate category: CCCTechnology.info.
All confirmed technical issues will be entered into the CCCTC Zendesk system and a support ticket will be emailed to you.
Questions, comments, and support requests will be forwarded directly to the CCCApply Product Manager, Patty Donohue, via the CCCTechnology.info support site.
Questions on the Noncredit Application
Will they be adding an "other" race category? One of my students asked me this questions recently.
00:35:29 Regarding Latino ethnicity list, why countries are being considered ethnic groups instead of just country of origin?
The Student Equity Planning work of the past several years and the Chancellor’s Vision for Success has resulted in a system-wide focus on closing equity gaps. The new Race & Ethnicity question and layout changes was based on the work resulting from that research from 2018. At this time, the Chancellor's Office will oversee approval on all changes proposed to this section (in conjunction with federal requirements).
Read more about the new Race & Ethnicity Implementation 2018 and the Ethnicity/Ancestry Expansion project.
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| Comment by Stephen Carrillo: Many Latinos do not feel comfortable with the ethnicity options provided |
00:35:45 sagenml: on the top right of each page it gives option to change to Spanish, but no other language00:35:49 pavik_l: Is it possible to add a supplemental page for additional crtiteria criteria we need to collect for AEBG?00:36:18 monica.sain: By the way, this new application looks great! I like that it's shorter and less intimidating for students.00:36:54 Vladimir Vasquez: Regarding Latino ethnicity list, why countries are being considered ethnic groups instead of just country of origin?00:37:29 VhSAC:
Yes. Colleges can add questions to their Noncredit Application, just like the Standard Application.
Where do I add supplemental questions?
Supplemental Questions are created using XML code and the file is uploaded in the CCCApply Administrator in the Supplemental Questions module for your college.
Implementation information can be found in the CCCApply Working with Supplemental Questions User Guide and the /wiki/spaces/PD/pages/758546724
Rather than removing the Needs & Interests page, can the page be customized by college to meet the student needs? For instance, noncredit students may not be eligible for EOPS yet may be eligible for DSPS and require such services.00:37:50 Serg: where do I add supplemental questions?00:38:17 Alex: How do they access the non-credit application from the college application? How to pick the credit vs non-credit?00:38:34 teacher.cec00hn2: Is this application available now for use? What if we have used in-house application? Shall we continue using that or just go with cccapply noncredit application?00:41:24 Alicia Gregory: We need the education tab - this is important for CAEP data information collection
No, other than the Supplemental Questions page, none of the CCCApply application pages can be configured to each college's custom needs. However, you can create custom rules and messages in the Administrator around any responses submitted to the Needs page (or any page, actually, even the Supplemental Questions page). Currently, any of the individual "Programs & Services" checkboxes listed on the Needs & Interests page can be used to trigger an email rule or error validation rule.
For implementation information on creating Rules and Messages in the Administrator, see the /wiki/spaces/PD/pages/758546724
00:43:34 mruiz: Are the WIOA MIS elements included in the noncredit app
00:4453:34 Alex: that goes against residency since people without ssn are more likely undocumented00:45:12 Alex: even asking if you dont want to provide it or don't want to share it00:53:51 Anabelle Cabrera: 55 mruiz: MIS SG elements 14-21 specifically
Can the user for NC only view NC Application?
CCCApply does not restrict anyone from completing the Noncredit Application. Whomever uses the Noncredit App URL for your college will see the Noncredit application.
However, a user can only submit one Noncredit Application for the same term and the same college.
Does student require to complete the Non Credit App if they are already applied as a College Credit student?00:53:55 mruiz: MIS SG elements 14-21 specifically00:54:35 Anabelle Cabrera: Is supplemental questions can be add if any?00:55:29 Anabelle Cabrera: Is spam filter work the same way as college credit?00:55:36 pavik_l:
No. If a student has completed a Standard Application for a specific term at your college, there is no reason for them to also complete a noncredit application at that point. All questions - all data - even residency-related information has already been submitted for that student (for that term at that college).
If we limit 'one application per semester', is it possible to submit a credit and noncredit application in the same semester? (This would be desired).
Yes. When we developed this application we knew that a "noncredit" student - after applying to your college for a specific term, may need to take a credit course (transition to credit) and therefore it would need to be possible for that use case to submit first a Noncredit Application, and 2) then a Standard Application - in that order - for the same term at the same college. Therefore, we removed the restriction to block two applications from being submitted to the same term at the same college IF the first application is the Noncredit Application, followed by the Standard Application (with all the previously hidden questions from the Noncredit Application).
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Noncredit to Credit Application Rule: Noncredit App First, OK! As explained above, CCCApply has modified the requirement that only one application can be submitted to the same term at the same college, IF the student submits the Noncredit Application first, followed by the Standard Application. Using enhanced auto-population, if this situation occurs and the student needs to submit a Standard Application after submitting the Noncredit, all previously submitted responses will autofill into the new application, thus streamlining and shortening the second application process. |
We would still want to screen students who are on a B1/B2 visa. Where would we do that in the application?01:00:42 Eily Lopez (MiraCosta): If we limit 'one application per semester', is it possible to submit a credit and noncredit application in the same semester? (This would be desired)01:00:57 Anabelle Cabrera: Is the user for NC can only view NC Application?01:07:39 Vladimir Vasquez: Do we get the undeliverable messages when using your welcome message
With the Citizenship Status question hidden in the Noncredit Application, there is no question that identifies a student's visa type or status. If capturing citizenship information for your noncredit is required, you will need to add it as a Supplemental Question.
Implementation information can be found in the CCCApply Working with Supplemental Questions User Guide and the /wiki/spaces/PD/pages/758546724.
00:55:29 Anabelle Cabrera: Is spam filter work the same way as college credit?
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