This meeting will be held online via Zoom.
Date: Friday May 10, 2019 Time: 9:00 AM - 10:15 AM PST
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May 10, 2019
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CCCApply Noncredit Pilot - Participant Roster |
Topic: CCCApply Noncredit App Pilot - Q&A Call Meeting Recording: Topic: CCCApply Noncredit App Pilot Regular Meeting Meeting Recording: |
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Action Item Description | Who? | Result | Deadline | Status | |
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Follow up on MIS DED elements related to Noncredit and whether these are required to be collected at time of Application | Patty > Mike Q./Elena - CCCCO | ||||
Design a template Supplemental Questions XML template which includes questions based on the NOCE supplemental questionnaire | Patty > Apply Team | ||||
Create a shared version of the NOCE Supp Questions sample page | Patty | See breakdown of the questions (per NOCE's perspective) and whether the questions are available in the Standard App, NC app, or not at all. | 4.15.19 |
Review the UAT testing plan Review the updated Noncredit UAT Implementation Checklist
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Several documents were shared during the April 12 meeting in reference to the MIS required data elements:
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Values / Responses | Required? MIS Element? | How does CCCApply respond? | |
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Have you ever applied and/or registered at North Orange Continuing Education, Cypress College, or Fullerton College? Yes No | ❑ Yes ❑ No | No. College-specific question. | |
Banner ID # @ Date _______________________ (MM/DD/YYYY) | No. College-specific question. | ||
LEGAL NAME PLEASE PRINT & USE BLUE OR BLACK INK ONLY. | Last _____________________________ First ______________________________ Middle ___________ | The Legal Name data fields are already provided to the college in their downloads. The data is collected in the OpenCCC account system and passed to the college with the application data upon submission. | |
Date of Birth | DATE OF BIRTH _______________________ (MM/DD/YYYY) | The "Birthdate" data is already provided to the college in their downloads. The data is collected in the OpenCCC account system and passed to the college with the application data upon submission. | |
PERSONAL INFORMATION (Additional information provided/customized by the college) | This information will be used for state and federal reporting purposes. It is optional and voluntary and will not be used for discriminatory purposes. By California law, the California Community Colleges collect voluntary demographic information regarding the sexual orientation, gender identify, and gender expression of students. This information is only used for summary demographic reporting, and your responses are kept private and secure. | No. College-specific text. | |
What is your current gender identity? | ❑ Male ❑ Female ❑ Decline to state | The "Gender" data field is already provided to the college in their downloads. The data is collected in the Noncredit App on the Demographic Information page with the same response options. NOTE: This field, by federal law, must be asked on the application but is NOT required to be answered by the applicant. This field is provided to colleges in their downloads | |
What is your current sexual orientation? | ❑ Straight/Heterosexual ❑ Gay or Lesbian/Homosexual ❑ Bisexual ❑ Other ❑ Decline to state | ? Required by federal and state laws (AB620) | The "Sexual Orientation" data field appears in the Noncredit App on the Demographic Information page with the same response options. This field is required by federal law, and must be asked at the time of application but is NOT required to be answered by the applicant. IMPORTANT NOTE: This data is provided to colleges but is not included in the standard college download file or Glue data set. This sensitive data is only available to colleges via special access to the CCCTC Data Warehouse to approved researchers. Please check with your college President or district Admissions |
Do you consider yourself transgender? | ❑ Yes ❑ No ❑ Decline to state | ? Required by federal and state laws (AB620) | The "Transgender" data field appears in the Noncredit App on the Demographic Information page with the same response options. This field is required by federal law, and must be asked at the time of application but is NOT required to be answered by the applicant. IMPORTANT NOTE: This data is provided to colleges but is not included in the standard college download file or Glue data set. This sensitive data is only available to colleges via special access to the CCCTC Data Warehouse to approved researchers. Please check with your college President or district Admissions |
Help Pop-Up Text Box (college customized additional text) | “Gender Identity” means one’s private sense of being male or female. “Sexual Orientation” describes an enduring pattern of attraction-emotional, romantic, sexual, or some combination of these-to persons of the opposite sex, the same sex, or to both sexes, as well as the genders that accompany them. “Transgender” is the state of one’s gender identity (self identification as woman, man, neither or both) not matching one’s assigned sex (identification by others as male, female or intersex based on physical/genetic sex). | No. College-specific text. | |
Have you been employed as a seasonal agricultural worker for at least a total of two months of each of the past two years? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This field is NOT included on the Noncredit Application. It is included on the Standard Application - on the Residency page. | |
Are you currently homeless? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | As a specific question - this field is provided to colleges in the Standard App, but NOT included in the Noncredit Application (currently hidden with the other questions on the Residency page). However, currently, there is an opportunity to gather information on whether a student is currently homeless via the OpenCCC account information on the Permanent Address question, and in the Noncredit application on the Account Information/Mailing page - with the Current Mailing address. Below are the fields that include current homeless status: ❑ No_perm_addresss_homeless | |
Are you comfortable reading and writing in English? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This field is currently provided to colleges in their Standard App downloads from the Needs & Interests page; however, per request from the CO Redesign workgroup, the Needs page is being removed from the application by default but the colleges have an opportunity to “opt-in” for each data field on that page. IF the Noncredit App pilot colleges believe it would be more advantageous to have this question remain, should it appear on the Needs & Interests tab/page? Or should this be added to the Supplemental Questions for Noncredit page (optional/customizable by the college)? | |
Do you currently receive any of the following types of assistance? (Check all that apply) | ❑ CalWORKs, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), or Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) ❑ Supplemental Security Income (SSI) ❑ General Assistance (GA) ❑ Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, Food Stamps) ❑ Foster Care, Medical/Medicaid, HUD Section 8 Housing Assistance, or other economic public assistance ❑ I am not currently receiving any public assistance | Some of this question is displayed in their Standard Application on the Residency page, which is currently NOT available in the Noncredit Application. Which means - even if we made this question available in the Noncredit application, it would need to be revised to include the values that do not currently appear in the Standard App. downloads - this question appears on the Residency page, which is currently NOT available to the Noncredit download file | |
Please select your approximate annual household income. | ❑ $0 to $15,000 ❑ $15,001 to $30,000 ❑ $30,001 to $45,000 ❑ $45,001 to $60,000 ❑ $60,001 to $75,000 ❑ Over $75,000 ❑ I do not know my approximate household income | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. This is one of the questions that would need to be added via Supplemental Questions page in the Noncredit App. | |
Please enter the number of people in your household. | ________________________ | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. This is one of the questions that would need to be added via Supplemental Questions page in the Noncredit App. | |
Have you ever been charged with or convicted of a crime? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
Have you had a job in the last six months? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
Have you been looking for a job in the last six months? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
Do you have any attitudes, beliefs, customs, or practices that make it hard for you to find a job? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
Are you currently preparing for a job by participating in internships, work experience, or capstone projects? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
Are you currently participating in activities that help you learn about a job through job shadows, service learning, class projects, or mentorships from professionals working in that job? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
Are you currently participating in any events or activities that will help you identify career interests or explore career options such as guest speakers, company tours, field trips, career fairs, or mock interviews? | ❑ Yes ❑ No | This question/field does NOT appear on the Standard application. | |
New Change Requests
Approved Changes
Deferred Change Requests
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The following list of action items are from all meetings.
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April 12 Meeting Chat Discussing a Noncredit Paper Application
09:11:37 From Morgan : SSN is collected (or can be) during the CCCID part of the app, wouldn't adding that to the app be redundant?
09:18:32 From Alfred : Let's not assume what is required and get it straight from legal or MIS.
09:42:44 From Ali Salinas (Riverside City College) : I agree. The noncredit application is easier - and quicker - to complete than a credit application. Meeting Recording: To share the recording with the integrated audio transcript: |
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March 22 Meeting Chat Below are the comments, questions, and answers (where possible) from the 3/22 meeting. Answers are provided in BLUE below. (This is the original file: meeting_saved_chat.txt)
09:08:02 From Tina King : It gets confusing when we consider noncredit as majors. Noncredit does not have majors.
09:10:31 From carter_dione to Patty Donohue (Privately) : Also social security # should be kept as an option due to the new CASAS/WIOA survey rollout
Title 5 Buckets
Problems with the Noncredit App URLs
9:28:42 From Alfred to Patty Donohue (Privately) : With the pilot: will we have input on the language used and the arrangement of fields and disclaimers?
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Action Item: Please review the Q&A from the last meeting, March 22.
March 04 Meeting Below are the comments, questions, and answers (where possible) from the 3/04 meeting Chat. Answers are provided in BLUE below. 16:02:28 From Dione & Luis : Patty, Noncredit needs to be spelled without a hyphen: Noncredit
During the demo, a request was made to implement a different "Welcome" page for the Noncredit Application. Below are the comments during this discussion from the Chat. 16:27:34 From Ali Salinas (Riverside City) : A separate (Welcome) landing page would be very helpful. 15:39:52 From Mitch Leahy : that depends on how your SIS is configured
15:39:35 From Gerlie Jeltema : If a student made the mistake of applying via Noncredit app because it was not clearly identified, does it prevent them from doing some things a regular student can do?
15:38:39 From Gerlie Jeltema : Is there a limitation as to what Noncredit students can do versus regular students at most institutions that require that a student know in advance that they are entering a strictly Noncredit application?
15:51:12 From fong_fai : Do you plan to add condition criteria for each of the supplemental questions. It would be great if you can, so we can control who sees the questions even on the regular app?
16:10:13 From Ali Salinas (Riverside City) : Patty, is this presentation/set of slides available online?
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